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		<title>By: Kodak&#8217;s Social Media Strategy: Backfiring Already? &#124; MotiveLab</title>
		<link>http://www.motivelab.com/2009/08/31/kodak-throws-down-the-social-media-gauntlet/comment-page-1/#comment-28741</link>
		<dc:creator>Kodak&#8217;s Social Media Strategy: Backfiring Already? &#124; MotiveLab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 20:11:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] week I wrote a short analysis of Kodak&#8217;s surprising move with the Zi8 pocket camera, explaining how Kodak had obviously been listening intently to consumer discussions about pocket [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Chris Kenton</title>
		<link>http://www.motivelab.com/2009/08/31/kodak-throws-down-the-social-media-gauntlet/comment-page-1/#comment-28740</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Kenton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 16:20:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s why I need to have more conversations with you. You remind me of the time I was researching goal theory many years ago. I found 6 or 7 areas of academic discipline that were all in some way plumbing the depths of how intentions are formed into actions--including everything from human psychology to artificial intelligence. Each had developed their own taxonomy and were pursuing their own paths of inquiry, with no apparent awareness of the cross-over and duplication of research with other disciplines. Every once in a while I&#039;d run across someone like Martin Ford, who had prairie-dogged above the isolated cubicles and looked out across the landscape of research to pull some threads together, but for the most part, people are content to labor in their own domain. 

My only counter argument to disruption theory is that everyone in business wants to be the innovator because the remarkable success stories are always about innovators. It&#039;s a much more interesting story, and much more highly rewarded, than just making a solid product that people want. But that rat race at the core is still a huge business opportunity, if you take the time to get it right. In that sense, I think it&#039;s as much about listening as it is about having a masterful response to what you hear--whether you&#039;re listening at the periphery in order to innovate, or whether you&#039;re listening at the core in order to sustain. I&#039;ll have an update on that with regard to Kodak today. 

I&#039;ll respond to your innovation vs. marketing post on your site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s why I need to have more conversations with you. You remind me of the time I was researching goal theory many years ago. I found 6 or 7 areas of academic discipline that were all in some way plumbing the depths of how intentions are formed into actions&#8211;including everything from human psychology to artificial intelligence. Each had developed their own taxonomy and were pursuing their own paths of inquiry, with no apparent awareness of the cross-over and duplication of research with other disciplines. Every once in a while I&#8217;d run across someone like Martin Ford, who had prairie-dogged above the isolated cubicles and looked out across the landscape of research to pull some threads together, but for the most part, people are content to labor in their own domain. </p>
<p>My only counter argument to disruption theory is that everyone in business wants to be the innovator because the remarkable success stories are always about innovators. It&#8217;s a much more interesting story, and much more highly rewarded, than just making a solid product that people want. But that rat race at the core is still a huge business opportunity, if you take the time to get it right. In that sense, I think it&#8217;s as much about listening as it is about having a masterful response to what you hear&#8211;whether you&#8217;re listening at the periphery in order to innovate, or whether you&#8217;re listening at the core in order to sustain. I&#8217;ll have an update on that with regard to Kodak today. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll respond to your innovation vs. marketing post on your site.</p>
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		<title>By: Venkat</title>
		<link>http://www.motivelab.com/2009/08/31/kodak-throws-down-the-social-media-gauntlet/comment-page-1/#comment-28738</link>
		<dc:creator>Venkat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 18:20:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, in the innovation ivory tower, the distinction is between &quot;sustaining&quot; and &quot;disruptive&quot; rather than &quot;leading&quot; and &quot;following.&quot;

The key to doing that actually has less to do with social media and more to do with selective listening. Do you listen to your most demanding core customers or to your peripheral customers who are hacking and improvising new uses for your stuff? Disruption theory argues that you should listen/watch at the periphery, not the core, for leadership opportunities, because the core is a rat race.

I&#039;d be interested in your take on my recent piece on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ribbonfarm.com/2009/06/15/marketing-innovation-and-the-creation-of-customers/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;innovation vs. marketing&lt;/a&gt; views of the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, in the innovation ivory tower, the distinction is between &#8220;sustaining&#8221; and &#8220;disruptive&#8221; rather than &#8220;leading&#8221; and &#8220;following.&#8221;</p>
<p>The key to doing that actually has less to do with social media and more to do with selective listening. Do you listen to your most demanding core customers or to your peripheral customers who are hacking and improvising new uses for your stuff? Disruption theory argues that you should listen/watch at the periphery, not the core, for leadership opportunities, because the core is a rat race.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d be interested in your take on my recent piece on <a href="http://www.ribbonfarm.com/2009/06/15/marketing-innovation-and-the-creation-of-customers/" rel="nofollow">innovation vs. marketing</a> views of the world.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Kenton</title>
		<link>http://www.motivelab.com/2009/08/31/kodak-throws-down-the-social-media-gauntlet/comment-page-1/#comment-28737</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Kenton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 04:38:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Venkat! Thanks for the kind words--that&#039;s high praise coming from someone as thoughtful and prolific as you are. :) 

You&#039;ve invoked one of the classic dichotomies of corporate strategy--what the ivory tower marketing geeks talk about as the difference between Market Leading and Market Following strategies. Market followers don&#039;t innovate, they just follow customer demand. Market Leaders innovate and show customers what&#039;s possible. Apple is a clear market leader, with a gift for showing us more than we imagine--but how many Apples are there in the world? Not many. It&#039;s much safer, and much easier to be a market follower and try to scrape profits out of efficiently meeting customer demands, and I have no doubt that many companies will use social media for exactly that purpose--ie: they&#039;re not as interested in connecting with their customers as they are squeezing an efficient profit out of a target segment. But I think social media provides an opportunity for more companies to be innovators, simply by participating more meaningfully in the communities that sustain them. If you understand the real needs of the community because your a participant, and not a detached observer looking at &quot;profiles&quot; and &quot;needs&quot; through the microscope of focus groups, I think you have a much better shot at anticipating innovation opportunities beyond the stated wish lists of your customers. But then, I&#039;m an optimist. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Venkat! Thanks for the kind words&#8211;that&#8217;s high praise coming from someone as thoughtful and prolific as you are. <img src='http://www.motivelab.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>You&#8217;ve invoked one of the classic dichotomies of corporate strategy&#8211;what the ivory tower marketing geeks talk about as the difference between Market Leading and Market Following strategies. Market followers don&#8217;t innovate, they just follow customer demand. Market Leaders innovate and show customers what&#8217;s possible. Apple is a clear market leader, with a gift for showing us more than we imagine&#8211;but how many Apples are there in the world? Not many. It&#8217;s much safer, and much easier to be a market follower and try to scrape profits out of efficiently meeting customer demands, and I have no doubt that many companies will use social media for exactly that purpose&#8211;ie: they&#8217;re not as interested in connecting with their customers as they are squeezing an efficient profit out of a target segment. But I think social media provides an opportunity for more companies to be innovators, simply by participating more meaningfully in the communities that sustain them. If you understand the real needs of the community because your a participant, and not a detached observer looking at &#8220;profiles&#8221; and &#8220;needs&#8221; through the microscope of focus groups, I think you have a much better shot at anticipating innovation opportunities beyond the stated wish lists of your customers. But then, I&#8217;m an optimist. <img src='http://www.motivelab.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Venkat</title>
		<link>http://www.motivelab.com/2009/08/31/kodak-throws-down-the-social-media-gauntlet/comment-page-1/#comment-28736</link>
		<dc:creator>Venkat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 13:03:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Been enjoying your revived posts Chris. Looks like your off-the-grid time got you some Zen insight points.

As an employee of the big company across the street from Kodak, this certainly interests me. One thing that I wonder about though, is that social media may allow unwary companies become &lt;i&gt;too&lt;/i&gt; customer-driven. When you say things like &quot;cleaned up the entire list&quot; it worries me as an engineer. Perhaps this case was the weird exception, but in general, the design tradeoffs in engineering, not to mention plain old design conceptual integrity and aesthetics, will rarely let a good product be totally driven by customer expectation.

The challenge for companies will be to take the voice of the customer and add that high concept design insight that pulls enough together in a beautiful way to move the needle of expectations to the next level.

And yeah, you&#039;re right. A sure sign that your strategy is working is that your best customers start grumbling about the next generation of features :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Been enjoying your revived posts Chris. Looks like your off-the-grid time got you some Zen insight points.</p>
<p>As an employee of the big company across the street from Kodak, this certainly interests me. One thing that I wonder about though, is that social media may allow unwary companies become <i>too</i> customer-driven. When you say things like &#8220;cleaned up the entire list&#8221; it worries me as an engineer. Perhaps this case was the weird exception, but in general, the design tradeoffs in engineering, not to mention plain old design conceptual integrity and aesthetics, will rarely let a good product be totally driven by customer expectation.</p>
<p>The challenge for companies will be to take the voice of the customer and add that high concept design insight that pulls enough together in a beautiful way to move the needle of expectations to the next level.</p>
<p>And yeah, you&#8217;re right. A sure sign that your strategy is working is that your best customers start grumbling about the next generation of features <img src='http://www.motivelab.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Kodak Throws Down the Social Media Gauntlet &#124; ChrisKenton.com</title>
		<link>http://www.motivelab.com/2009/08/31/kodak-throws-down-the-social-media-gauntlet/comment-page-1/#comment-28735</link>
		<dc:creator>Kodak Throws Down the Social Media Gauntlet &#124; ChrisKenton.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 19:30:05 +0000</pubDate>
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